A God of Science
"[I]t takes a half a second for a baby to throw up all over your sweater. It takes hours to get it clean." -- Patricia Pricehouse, on inroads Intelligent Design theory has made into high school pedagogy.

The controversy is nothing new; it has been raging since Darwin contradicted Paley in Origin of Species. In American educational pedagogy the Scopes Monkey Trial was the culmination of a long-stewing desire to teach what the rest of the world already was, the doctrine of Darwin, to high schoolers.
Now it's just the opposite. The Design Institute claims that evolution has become so entrenched in the biology curriculum that criticism is squelched and science suffers. There may be truth to this, but the Design Institute has bigger fish to fry. They have a system of their own: Intelligent design. ID is all about probability--the probability of complex systems arriving from random mutation and environmental stressors being statistically vanishing, if not altogether impossible. Unlike the similar "creation science" movement, ID-chums proclaim God has nothing to do with it.
That's the official line anyway.
After the Ohio board voted to scrutinize the curriculum, Jonathan Wells, author of Icons of Evolution and one of the pro-ID panelists, "barnstormed Ohio churches soon after notifying congregations of a new, ID-friendly standard."
God has everything to do with it. And, with God effectively removed from the scientific equation by definition, the battle for ID will be fought in the fierce memetic feeding ground of public opinion.
There is no question that scientific rigor is important, and that theories that become universally accepted are in grave danger of becoming obsolete. The backers of ID talk like they're exposing this truth for the first time, when in fact it is a central tenet of science. They love to selectively quote Steven Jay Gould--the prominent Darwinist--as examples of how evolution doesn't work. What they fail to admit is that Darwinists are constantly and forcefully scrutinizing the theory in ways that makes the singular ID claims against evolution seem trite.
"The probability is statistically insignificant--from a scientific standpoint."They can say nothing, because the pivot-point of their theory lies in some kind of noumenal other-worldness that is, at least for now, and probably forever, outside the realm of observable phenomena.
"No shit. The numbers are staggering. What's your solution?"
"The solution is obviously an intelligence at work in our design--a God . . . or Aliens."
"Fine. What can you say, scientifically, about this God, or these aliens?"
The thing is, Science, by definition and praxis, is the study of observable phenomena and the theories developed from such. It is nothing more.
To say that evolution is statistically improbable is a fair scientific assertion--though the actual math the Design Institute uses to argue for it is controversial. What is most certainly not a valid scientific assertion is the pronouncement with certainty that since complex systems from random processes is improbable, God [or aliens] must exist. One does not necessarily follow from the other.
The funny thing about the aliens argument is that it presupposes an infinite regress, which even Aristotle believed was crap. If aliens created us, who created them? Other aliens? This will go on, with successive alien species creating, for whatever reason, other alien species forever until, at some point, in the experiments of these wacky aliens, there was a first alien, an alien who wasn't created by other aliens.
That alien sounds a lot like Aristotle's God, the first mover.
So whether it be God or Aliens, the essential starting point is still God. Last I heard, God wasn't scientifically demonstrable, though I haven't been keeping up with current events.
If God can not be demonstrated scientifically, he is out of bounds to science. The Discovery Institute knows this, which is why they make no effort to prove his existence, the way Creation Science nuts of the past have. Instead, they attack the prevailing theory, and argue from there. They employ a logical fallacy called the "false dilemma," pretending that evolution and intelligent design are the only choices. If evolution is improbable, they argue, ID must be correct. But that's a false conclusion. Invalidating Evolution is not the same as proving Intelligent Design. For a better explanation of false dilemma, go here.
They are trying to pass off what is essentially faith as the heir apparent: "information age science". They do so only by attacking the prevailing thoughts, not by offering any concrete proof of their own theories.
That's not just bad science, that's not science at all.
Evolutionists, like Pricehouse from the quote at the beginning of the blog, are treating this as a thorn in science's side that will be a mess to clean up. Hopefully it will be only that. But with our nation's children as the target and a faith-based President in the white house, the stakes are high, and I'm a little worried.
Faith is faith and faith is a great thing, but faith doesn't put men on the moon and it doesn't teach us how the planets rotate or how cells divide.
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I've decided I'm not worried. I'm waiting for my soma. Seems like whatever they've fed everyone else is already working. It's only a matter of time before they develop an opiate that works on the rest of us.
Well put, an opiate would be nice right about now.
"The Babel fish is small, yellow, and leechlike, and probably the oddest thing in the universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centers of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish. Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything that mindbogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the nonexistence of God. The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing." "But," says man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn´t it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don´t. QED." "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn´t thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic." - Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
--Aleah
Aleah, you isolated just about my favorite passage in my favorite 5-volume trilogy ever,,,, from my favorite author on the planet - errr - the universe.
Well, my favorite always changes like the weather but Douglas Adams has been in the top 3 for a couple decades so I'll just call the contest over for the sake of this comment.
Luke, I'm re-reading your post before commenting because it's RICH.
-- Don Sheffler
Aleah, that's the second time in as many days that I've read EXACTLY THAT passage. I was browsing Wikipedia's section on Babylon and there was the biblical story of the confused tongues, then a link to that quote.
Fantastic.
Now I'll just have to read that Quintilogy . . .
So many things to read.
No Luke, Adams specifically wrote it as a "Trilogy"... with ... five ... volumes. He was funny that way.
By the way, the famously ubiquitous "they" are filming the movie right now.
-- Don Sheffler
No Luke, Adams specifically wrote it as a "Trilogy"... with ... five ... volumes. He was funny that way.
By the way, the famously ubiquitous "they" are filming the movie right now.
-- Don Sheffler
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The very nature of science is supposed to be questioning and testing everything, and constantly seeking new information and altering theories to include the new info; I welcome anything that makes the eggheads take a new look at what they believe, because chances are they've got at least PART of it wrong.
Don, did you ever hang out at the Revelle Commuter Lounge, by any chance?
Ok.
Let's be direct. Evolution is a fact. As is, for instance, Gravity. Gravity exists, quite plainly, and there has been extended research and THEORY as to exactly what it is and how it works and how to model the phenomenon. Too, Evolution exists, quite plainly, and the THEORY of Evolution is a work in progress that attempts to model and explain its working mechanisms.
HOW evolution works is the thing that is constantly being evaluated, hypothesized, and re-evaluated. The opponents of evolution's existence are quite simply those people who have an underlying need for evolution to not exist. This is the one and only reason there is any argument on the issue. Nobody, for example, opposes the science of plate tectonics because, well, it doesn't contradict anybody's religious beliefs.
Those who triumphantly proclaim that evolution is a problematic science have pointed to the disagreements within the scientific community of the precise workings of the theory. While early theorists proposed a smooth and progressive chain of mutations leading to present day species, Steven Jay Gould for instance volleyed forth with a concept of punctuated equilibrium. My point here, is that no one on either side is questioning the actual existence of the evolution of species.
So Luke, I'm finally getting around to my reason for commenting:
1. You said that to claim "evolution is statistically improbable is a fair scientific assertion...." Actually, I don't think it is. Any given mutation, at any given time, is what is statistically improbable. That we exist at this moment as we do, is improbable. At the roulette table, your chosen number coming up on any one spin, is improbable. Given time and many spins, the instance of your number coming up at some point is guaranteed. Evolution itself is a slam dunk. Its very mechanism is the undeniable property of imperfection. Things mutate, they don't work the way they used to. Sometimes these changes help, sometimes they don't. Given about 6 billion years, they add up to quite a state of affairs.
"Humans are not the end result of predictable evolutionary progress, but rather a fortuitous cosmic afterthought, a tiny little twig on the enormously arborescent bush of life, which if replanted from seed, would almost surely not grow this twig again."
- Stephen Jay Gould
2. Those that claim that evolution goes against entropy are attempting to apply entropy to the system instead of the components. Example. Our ecosystem is complex. Rainwater falls, takes amazingly circuitous routes to a central holding facility, the ocean, and then through surface evaporation goes up into the atmosphere to start the same journey all over again. And a lot of stuff happens in between. Each component necessary for this trip is an example of a process taking the path of least resistance. Based on physical laws the water did only exactly what it was supposed to do, combining with other elements it came in contact with only when it created a more stable state. Entropy works this way. Things drop to their most stable state. Yet the system that this series of components add up to, is "complex". So be it.
I see that the red light on my podium is now flashing so I'm down to 5 seconds. Good night now.
-- Don Sheffler
Hi Omni - I did, on occasion. I lived right there in Argo for a couple years. Luke, you don't mind that we're filming an episode of Chance Reunions Online, do you? Or Omni, you don't mind that I called it Chance, do you? :-)
re: You said that to claim "evolution is statistically improbable is a fair scientific assertion...." Actually, I don't think it is.
It is a fair question Don, when evolutionists spend inordinate amounts of bookspace devoted to the statistical probabilities associated with proteins grouping themselves in replicatable ways, there must be at least some controversy there.
Dennet's excellent "Darwin's Dangerous Idea" spent the better part of 200 pages on the permutative vastness of the "library of Mendel"
Dennet is a man who relishes in nothing more than dismissing a claim out of hand, so for him to spend that much time on it suggests there's a validity to the question of probability--especially when we're talking about origins--that hasn't totally been fleshed out.
That is, after all, what ID people are talking about, the genesis, not necessarily the stuff that came after.
Demsky, at Baylor, I believe is an ID guy who is also an evolutionist that just couldn't justify the fantastic probabilities that go into a genesis scenario.
That said, organic evolution is available for view in everyday life. I watched a show on drug therapies to fight HIV that noted that an HIV population, having a dominant and drug-suceptible strain, will totally shift and drug-resistant strains will becom dominant within hundreds of generations, or like a period of weeks.
So I mean in that sense the ID people are playing the smart game by not attacking evolution there as much as their attacking origins.
and ONCE AGAIN, shifting the frontlines from the lab to the state house.
now. My red light.
"book four in the increasingly poorly named hitchhiker's trilogy", I remember that
And Flaime, you're right, nothing HAS invalidated evolution, much less the ID people, which was kind of the point of the article, that the battlefield, as mentioned has moved to the stage of public opinion.
Don, you know my views on "chance," lol. It's likely that we were in the same place at the same time at some point, as I was part of the group that was there in the lounge every day. Perhaps the most memorable member of the group was a 6'8'" tall man known as "Big Bill"... or, as a horny young guy, you might have found the woman with huge boobs (and buck teeth, although no man would notice THAT) more memorable. There was also a very carroty redhead who also, come to think of it, had pretty big boobs... does any of that ring a bell?
I don't think it's even appropriate to discuss the origins of life in terms of probability or statistics until we have a better idea what exactly that origin is. For instance, it is improbable that lightning hit just the right goo, producing just the right protein that had just the right mechanisms for replicating itself in simple, predictable ways into prokaryotic or even eukaryotic life (Genes first hypothesis).
Do I think that warm, wet clay could harbor simple amino acids that polymerize to form simple proteins? Could those proteins form an autocatalytic set that would lead to the existence of cell membranes (Metabolism first hypothesis)? Maybe, but I wouldn't bet my financial aid on it. It is interesting, though, that the Proteinogenic amino acids are low-energy, which suggests that they would exist in relative abundance in the primordial ooze.
On the other hand, could a combination of these two hypothesis -- given a really fucking big planet, a long-ass amount of time, and an enormous set of conditions -- account for some simple eukaryotic life? Sure. Why not?
In fact, if hard-pressed, I'd say that the above combination is much, much more likely than some entity intelligent enough to foresee the outcome of this little science experiment sitting around for a couple billion years waiting for us to develop flagella. Wouldn't this designer kick things off a little bit closer to when things get interesting? Maybe that's just me.
Besides, I think Aristotle is really raising the more important questions with infinite regression. Is there any reason that any intelligent designer (let alone a sequence of such designers) is more probable to develop than E. coli?
Unfortunately, pointing out problematic logic to a group who bases their argument on a logical fallacy is most likely a waste of breath.
It's good that there are problems with evolution. Science requires criticism and thrives on it to produce robust theories. Faith, on the other hand, is practically designed (intelligently?) to deflect criticism and minimize the importance of input from sources outside the group presenting the original ideas. Which approach do you trust?
--Mike Sheffler
... turning to the 3-D map, we see an unmistakable cone of ignorance
Remember Sherlock Holmes: When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
--Aleah
Omni, is there a way to communicate without using Luke's Blogopolis? On your own blog I couldn't find a way to email or message you even if I were a hacker. Although I don't remember your ample-boobidity or your auburn-hairedness I'd be interested in seeing if we had courses together. Do you remember KB Books? That was me and a couple friends exercising our capitalistic rights on campus directly under the nose of THE MAN. We were rock stars. Hah!
OK Luke, back to your regularly scheduled programming...
Don, neither of the women I described was ME... sorry, lol. If you want, you could put a post on your blog about your college glory days, and we could compare notes about life at UCSD... and I bet Luke would come over and read it. ;-)
Mike and Luke, my comments actually were more directed at the process of Evolution itself and the stunning immensity of time that has allowed it to occur. As far as a specific Genesis, as Mike mentioned, there is considerable discussion, and as Luke mentioned, the probability of the elements lining up for that lucky lightning strike are understandably slim. At any given moment. But imagine the quadrillions of lightning strikes over the millions of square miles during the millions of years during which this protein-amino-acid-pinch-of-salt concoction is proposed to have been zapped into being. I'm no biochemical professor, but I'm down with the theory. Here's where applying Occam's Razor actually makes sense. (Here, and in the O.J. Simpson trial).
If one believes in an outside prime mover involved in the formation of life, I'm not arguing - it's another discussion falling squarely outside the realm of science. Luke's point originally. (Remember that? Who's Luke?) It is in the blending of the oil and water of faith and science that is born our cultural schizophrenia. I decided to not even address the Genesis issue.
So, even if it was a wayward alien dropping a highly fortuitous dump while passing by our slowly cooling rock, I'm still just talking about the since-then scenario.
I'm fascinated with stuff like this (I think I did the math right): If Earth's timeline were a single football field, every inch would be more than a million years. Starting at one end of the field, each step you took would zip past 20 million years at a time, yet you would walk 75 yards before the first green algae appears on land. You would continue another 15 yards before worms appear, and the spread of mammals on land occurs on the final yard, which is a mere 40 MILLION years. The entire existence of humans as we look today would be found in far less than the thickness of the last blade of grass just before the goal line.
And look at the kind of time I'm wasting today!
That's a beautiful image Don, nice. the Genesis issue is a sticky one, you're right, but looking at the time alotted is something most people don't do. Despite the odds not technically getting any better with any particular or any series of lightning strikes, you gotta like the chances.
Luke, c’mon, don’t talk about “our nation’s children,” it makes you sound like a politician. I don’t think we (you, I, and Mike) were taught evolution in high school and we turned out fine. And I realize that’s silly reasoning, but, I know I should be over it by now, but I still hate high schoolers in general. Fuck ‘em, I say.
Aleah, thanks for Hitchhiker’s quote, well timed.
“Please don’t say ‘supernatural.’ There is only the supernormal. Nothing exceeds the natural.” -the ghost investigatin’ Doctor in Richard Matheson’s Hell House.
-ben, now finishing brand new SMAX hardcover, in which a dragon is slain with atomic fusion in the finale.
I find it interesting that religious types can argue the unlikely event that evolution is possible, and the statistics that would have to come into play to make it so, yet they happily walk down the path of delusion waving the banner of a supreme being offering up as proof their faith. www.handbasket.info
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